We live in Carlsbad, CA, which I believe is sunset zone 24. Do you have any experience or exposure to Nabal Avos? (Note: I took this photo in June, at the tail end of the Fuerte season, at the height of the Hass season, and at the very beginning of the Reed season.). Watering. I have been in contact with them for Carmen, GEM and Ettinger trees and late January was told to ask later in April for the trees. On second thought. On that note, I should mention a post that I wrote a couple summers ago after my yard reached 109.8 degrees one day. Your message is very fun for me to read. It could be something I acquired from eating Fuertes as a kid, I dont know. Hass has the wonderful ability to mature its fruit and then hold them on the tree for many months, waiting for you to pick them. BTW Thank you for the great info youve published. I ate my first ever Kona Sharwil today. Heres a link to Miramars offerings: https://www.sandiego.gov/environmental-services/miramar/greenery/cmw#products. Hi Greg, So from Armstrong and Evergreen and Walter Andersen, etc. And dont worry about the distance. Of course, they dont understand the function of that leaf litter. Hi David, Theyre really small. Like Lamb, it will drop some fruit about now in spring before its mature, but you still always end up with a good crop. Some answers to these questions can be found here: [About our soil: it is not acid at all, for sure. I recently bought a Hass and Reed on salt tolerant root stock. As for growing a Sharwil tree in your yard, youll probably find that it wont be quite as productive as a Hass or Reed, but possibly more productive than a Fuerte. Over the past 2 weeks sheltering in place, Im noticing lots of small fruit starting. Eli also sells his avocados at farmers markets, and the one closest to you is in Corona Del Mar. Phoenix Avocado (Mendez No.1) Aravaipa Avocado Palo D'Oro Avocado Hellen Avocado Sharwil (Kona Sharwil) Ardith. We have a central coast house with three citrus trees and was looking for one Avocado tree, I was leaning towards the Sir Prize, with your discussion should I lean towards the Haas as a single tree, or is either a good choice. One of the challenging things is actually figuring out the season for each time and what that season is for those varieties in the location it is planted. And one concern would be pairing a vigorous upright variety with a slow spreading variety. Although I enjoy the diversity of tastes in most all avocado varieties, theres something about Fuerte fruits that hit the target for me. Mites like a dusty leaf surface. Most of the other retail nurseries buy from the same wholesale growers (La Verne and Durling). For commercial purposes the fruits are picked while unripe and ripened after harvesting. Medium spreading canopy. Great read! When you put a thick layer of tree trimmings down, do you turn them to allow air to circulate? On the other hand, I doubt youd be disappointed with Pinkerton, which is widely available. Its a challenge to choose a single avocado variety to plant. Great article, Im planting a reed, hass and fuerte. I noticed that usually the soil in big box stores are not the best for avocados but that seems to be changing as the last tree I bought (Ettinger) came in black sand. I understand that Wurtz, Holiday, Pinkerton and Gem are my options. Its season should complement the GEM even better, and the growing pattern seems like its columnar as well. Sharwil avocados have a dense, nutty flavor and a high oil content. Hi Greg, your posts are so helpful! Let me get things together on my side before I share too much about the Lamorinda tree. 1) be reliable cropper, a variety that gives high yields, even as a solo-tree (we dont have other avocados in our neighourhood, and my two trees, not flowering at the same time, would be considered as solo-trees) My trees are young now, but Im a few years I will ask for your location and send you a barrel of all my varieties. I even made a chart a few years ago showing the harvest seasons of some varieties (in my post When to pick avocados), but Im not perfectly comfortable with it because every year is different and every yard is different, even within a small geographical area like a single county let alone all of Southern California. I live in Ramona in the Acres where we really get both extremes temperature-wise since its a pretty low/flat area not shielded by any hills mountains. At first, I had a Hass in mind, but found out about the GEM and it sounded more like what I was looking for, especially with the columnar growing pattern. It has excellent flavor with two distinct crops a year. Finally picking a bunch of softball-sized, very tasty fruits. Your thoughts? These are the first trees I have had success with and just dont want to mess things up. Just so you and other readers know, my yard is in inland San Diego County near the town of Ramona. The challenge Ive heard others in your area having is with occasional cold snaps in winter (taken care of by your greenhouse) and such cool spring weather that B types dont set much fruit. (I prefer this to their compost, which is a bit overcooked and too fine for my liking. GEM trees are a bit hard to come by, unfortunately. Also, strangely, there arent too many Sharwils around considering that its not a new variety and everyone who tastes one says they approve. It generates more than $1 billion a year in revenues in the U.S. And it all started with one tree planted by a postman in his own backyard. . Id use less dense shade cloth or raise the shade cloth. There are lots of other very good avocado varieties. Your email address will not be published. The tree looks healthy and fruitful: auspicious for your plantings. Old mexicana only a few a year, sometimes none. Ill suggest other varieties and give lots of reasons and scenarios in the upcoming post. For my Fuerte, for instance, Ive grafted in a couple of branches of A types. Im going for it! I sure am no botanist)))). So if possible, I would also add a third tree of a B-type flower and keep it small and use it just for the flowers (strip all or most of its fruit each year). And a friend showed me an old tree of an unknown variety that hed found growing without irrigation near Shelter Island. What would you recommend? GEM with a friend is a great idea. Oh!, and do I ever miss a good fuerte which I used to sell off a fruit truck next to Golden Gate Park in SF in the 70s. Sharwil The most popular Hawaiian avocado and the only one certified for shipping to the mainland, Sharwil avocados are relatively large, green-skinned fruits descended from both Guatemalan and Mexican trees. Hi, i was gifted a Nabal Avocado tree for xmas and before i plant it in the ground, i was wondering what its growing habits are? Ive never eaten Green Gold. Im still fairly new to farming and have a ~280 Hass grove (Fuerte rootstock) in inland San Diego (Ramona), so I am always fascinated with learning about these trees. Shot hole borers being involved didnt even occur to me, but now that you mention it that seems like a definite possibility. By the way, I have a few other Hawaiian varieties growing that Ive never tasted and am wondering if youd recommend giving any of them more or less attention and space: Murashige, Malama, Nishikawa, Kahaluu? You might try to ask someone nearby about the water they use, especially on a young tree (older trees are tougher). The Pinkerton tree itself gets a bit sunburned and tattered looking but it holds onto its fruit very well, which Id say is what we most care about. I cant imagine anyone being happy with that situation even if were just a typical commercially variety much less a one of a kind variety without first getting some type of permission. Thanks for the feedback on Holiday. Also my grandfather said growing up in Los Angeles they had Mcarthur avocados, Have you ever heard of them? Suggestions? More reliably available than Sharwil, GreyStar avocados have the same wonderful texture and delicious flavour, and a long season from December to June. Good luck with the Reed. There are a lot of factors that go into the long term performance of a tree, but all other things being equal (health of tree, scion variety, rootstock, care), I also see no theoretical reason that a younger tree would somehow jump ahead of an older tree. I saw his GEMs on Toro Canyon and they looked perfect and vigorous. Its single disadvantage is its black color, which has been associated in the minds of the public with poor quality fruits, wrote H.B. So I tried a Reed for the first time today from the farmers market. Hi Greg, The fruit of domestic varieties have smooth, buttery, golden-green flesh when ripe. However, the main challenge is that different varieties grow at different rates so you have to prune in order to make sure that one (or more) dont take over and shade out the other(s). It appears similar to Fuerte. I have a Reed on Dusa that is doing very well. We made and wholesaled guacamole on Kauai, Hawaii for 10 years. We do not have a lot of wind problems where we are located, either. The salt tolerance of some is not extremely better than others. I am in the hills of Montecito, south facing slope. I visited a grove with a soil pH of 8 and saw that their GEM trees on Dusa were stunted and chlorotic. This is finally my update. If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. And Gwen was developed just as Hass became king of the world avocado industry and growers and consumers alike began preferring black-skinned avocados. You mentioned stopping to see friends in O B. This has happened before when a local avocado grower put a video of a seedling with huge avocados up on YouTube. We will sell trees at various ages and transport to other islands. If I had the space for three avocado trees, I would add a Fuerte to the mix. The soil holds water for long though (it is tempting to just buy a larger tree but im in it for the long run). But first let me say thank you. The Sharwil is a Guatemalan avocado of Australian origin, very similar to the Fuerte (although the Sharwil avocado is more ovular). We had problems with root rot our persimmontree died of root rot). You might be able to find a Gwen to taste at a farmers market somewhere nearby around now and through summer. Might turn out to be yours though! how come i never thought about this! Obviously the tree would look very weird, but would likely be weak or want to fall to one side or maybe the vigorous variety would pull more nutrients and starve the less vigorous variety. You found an avocado tree in Nice! (Compare that to many peaches, which cant hold their mature fruit for more than a couple weeks!). They are on the bigger side, green-skinned, pear-shaped, and tasty. We are also planting 14 varieties of guaranteed dwarf coconut trees for seed to grow future dwarf coconut seed farms on all islands. 2) in the same context, which would be the best pair for Pinkerton tree Hass, Fuerte or Bacon? So surprised I bought one to see how well it works as a hedge as you mentioned in another article. Thanks for the feedback. Some of them are relegated to a lower tier because of flavor (Zutano); some arent productive enough (Holiday). A homegrown Hass, picked at prime time around May or June in, Whats Reed like? The same occurred with my newly planted atemoya: the leaves turned black, and the tree dried to death. I dont know of any other commercial avocado grove with many Sharwils, unfortunately. Its usually easier to grow an avocado tree in the ground than to keep one healthy in a container. Heavy clay is the worst for Hass avocado trees, but if you have no other choice, create a raised bed or a mound with a 3-5 foot diameter to plant the tree on. http://www.riversun.co.nz/assets/Uploads/Avocado-Rootstock-Characteristics.pdf (Both Reed and Hass produce more than Fuerte in my yard.) Edranol, Ettinger, Hass, Sharwil and Zutano were mid-season flowerers. We also now have rain tanks and are going to try and save our rain water for the avo, as the other fruit trees do well with our water. This high quality, black-skinned avocado is up to 25% larger than its parent, Mexicola. I am familiar with Fuertes history and that it grows wide making dense planting difficult and that some years the production is very low. Dig a hole twice as large as the tree's root system, carefully plant the tree and cover the roots. I have Lamb, Pinkerton, Reed, Mexicola Grande, Hass, Holiday and Ettinger. Would appreciate any information that you might wish to share! Hi Greg, The flesh itself has a mild taste and is quite watery. This might be different for you though; it probably depends on your particular microclimate. GEM and Carmen will both satisfy you, Im sure of it. Theyre similar to Reed in both taste and appearance (round and green skin), except that the Nabals I know have a thicker, shell-like skin. Found some 5gals at Atkins in Fallbrook. I hope I can answer all of your questions on this topic there. It seems that I should have bought the first Ettinger I saw five years ago. That sounds like a nice combination of trees, and it sounds like theyre growing very well. With all 3 trees with hundreds of bb size to small marble size. Congratulations on your house in Covina. I wrote to the manager, asked if they had avocado trees available, sent a bank transfer, did the arrangements for the shipping and the trees were delivered to Nice. Are they light producing or is that they are slow growing therefore they are light producing because they are small? Queen Avocado. But I still hesitate about the rootstock variety. I would be happy to share with you if you are interested. Thanks for the update. And, green gold, very prolific, and a good pollinator. Thanks. A hybrid cross of the Mexican and Guatemalan subspecies, 'Fuerte' was the industry-standard avocado in California before the Hass came on the scene. Thanks for the response. About 8 miles inland in Southern Sonoma County. One concern I have about fresh trimmings is the build up of spores and what not from it just being piled up (6 inches or so thick). But I have seen Holiday and Pinkerton. Its crazy that these bigger nurseries carry many more inferior varieties, such as Zutano, while less frequently have Reed. Then I would give the slight nod to GEM due to the likelihood that the tree in general will look prettier. This is one of the reasons that Hass went from obscurity in 1945 to over 95 percent of the commercial avocado production in California today. Tree 2: This one has been tough to pin down, and I have come up with a few options based on my research. I have bought a number of trees there. Thanks again! Thank you. The fruit is set in huge numbers uniformly throughout the tree. If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. So I have got as close as I can while understanding that the season is going to be affected by many other things anyway. https://ibb.co/4jnDhXv You are going to be in avocado heaven soon. Avocados have been grown in neighboring Spain for a very long time, and I know there are nurseries there. Really, grafted avocado trees can kill themselves by fruiting too much too soon. I cant imagine between them, my brother and I, that it will be a problem, lol. Funny thing is that Hass was once an outsider. Having grown up in San Diego and having a father who loved Avocados, I was never without. I have been growing avos for 40 years. Thank you so much for your response. In my (very limited) gardening experience, I noticed that choosing the right variety is not everything, one has to be sure it will function well in the conditions ones got. You might try spraying the undersides of foliage every week or so for a period in spring and/or summer to see if it makes a difference. So, I want versions that handle topping well or are naturally small. In fact the tree might be a hundred years old and is easily 60 feet tall or larger. I would stick to A types though. Hi Greg, The foliage just doesnt look very pretty close up. I have a hilly area for my trees and its not practical for ladders, so Im looking to plant avocado trees that are easier to pick, great tasting, high yielding and can hang for some time on the tree (ideally). Should complement the GEM season. You could eat Sir Prize fruits starting pretty early in winter, and then you could let the GEMs hang late and eat them even through summer maybe into fall except that Covina gets hot, so maybe not. AvoSeedo Avocado Tree Growing Kit, Green, Practical Gifts for Women, Mom, Sister & Best Friend, Plant Indoors with Novelty Pit Grower Boat & Kitchen Garden Seed Starter 6,659 $9.96 $ 9 . It is pear-like in shape and has dark skin when ripe. I have a 60% shade cloth for my Fuerte. On your south-facing slope it might not be as happy. Because of your lack of frost, I dont see why you couldnt grow avocados well. Even in warm-winter locations it doesnt always bear as well as some A types. A whole avocado contains around 11.8 grams of carbs ( 1 ). There are other varieties that taste as good or possibly slightly better than Hass. So I need to know the characteristics of other types of Avocado trees. Step 6. Thanks. Im planning on planting a Reed. I am really lost on here. The tree's canopy can range in shape from low, dense, and symmetrical, to upright and asymmetrical. A couple other options might be Fuerte and Bacon. Grows the best long-term in the ground. I have seen, in person, happy Hass and/or Reed trees in other parts of Southern California considered Sunset Zone 18, such as Rancho Cucamonga, Corona, and Redlands. What I would plant after these is less solid though. Your input and knowledge definitely helps. When I walk around my neighborhood here in Sylmar, Its amazing how most people abuse their avocado trees by having their gardeners rake up those leaves as soon as they hit the ground. Thank you so much. reading on other forums, ive seen comments that its better in the long run to plant a smaller size tree (3 gallon +) compared to a larger 15+ gallon size tree.that the smaller size tree will out perform and out grow the larger gallon size in the future. According to your post and other things Ive read a Reed would be a good choice but, then I started looking at Sharwil and the descriptions of the flavor sounds amazing. Sir-Prize is a very good avocado but I dont think its quite as good as those three, especially for your situation since its harvest season is only a little before Hass and overlapping with Hass. Ive been looking for a long time where could I purchase sharwil avocados. impossible (or almost impossible) to ship American varieties from the US to Europe. Highlights. Id like to try out that variety. But just a few years later, in 1992, fruit flies ruined everything. Thank you for all the great information! At best, carrying a super heavy crop load usually means that the following years crop will be very light. Required fields are marked *. I like that place, he even recommended going down to Maddocks a bit further if he didnt have what I wanted. But a number of old Fuertes remain, and like for you, the taste of Fuerte remains the original avocado flavor for me. The last tree has very little green although it does look like new green. Together you will get year round fruit, theyre small for avocado trees and better tasting than what you find in stores. Australia's avocado industry is largely populated by two varieties: Hass and Shepard. I read about GEM, and it sounds like it would fit easily in our space and produce great fruit. High oil content - Sharwil and Hass both >25% oil. Sixty percent shade cloth over the trees can work as long as its only over the top (not wrapping the entire tree) and more than a few inches higher than the tree (not almost touching the top leaves). Good problems. And if its a tiny tree youre after, then it doesnt get much smaller than Holiday (XX3). There are likewise some very old Puebla-type trees where I grew up that I always drive by to check on when Im in the neighborhood. Your help would be most welcome, 1. Sounds like a good plan. The Hass avocado is one of the most delicious varieties of avocado around, with a rich creamy flesh and superior taste. Started producing at 3? Theres likely to be at least a little variation in your yard. This way I still have the varieties (and I hope I get as much fruit as possible from them) but Im not wasting space and water on a lot of unproductive foliage. The Hass has a lot on it and both the other trees have some as well. They explain about varieties and rootstocks and even about clonal vs seedling rootstock (that was an amazing discovery as well). I was surprised this past weekend that I found the Lowes in La Mirada had 10 Reeds in 5 gallon containers. The fifteen-gallon avocado trees Ive planted have all continued to be far bigger and productive earlier than five-gallon trees planted at the same time. You live in a fantastic neighborhood for growing avocados, as you obviously know. I plan on keeping the trees no taller than about 12, so I dont have to get on a ladder. Great to hear all of this. Anyway, Id focus on A types, and with the 14-foot ceiling you could prune any variety to keep its size in check or go with a naturally smaller variety such as Gwen, GEM, Pinkerton, Lamb, or even Reed (these will all ultimately get taller than 14 feet, but not as soon). Incidentally, similar spacings can often be used in a yard as on a farm. Of the more than 275,000 acres that nurture Mexican avocados, the hands-down favorite is the Hass avocado, with is creamy, nutty flavor. Screw the big/medium locals, I am going to Fallbrook from now own to get my avo trees straight from the growers. D'Arturo Avocado. 1. Adam Tropics is located in the center of Temecula, we offer many varieties, Gem is a new type very similar to Hass Avocado in tree shape and quality of fruits but mature trees grow a little smaller than . Ive only eaten them once though, a handful of years ago up in Carpinteria. In fact, it is precisely the microbes in there doing their work that produce the enzyme called cellulase which is said to fight the pathogenic fungus that causes root rot disease in avocados (Phytophthora cinnamomi). See: https://gregalder.com/yardposts/how-to-plant-and-stake-an-avocado-tree/. With a single Hass tree you can have good avocados at hand for at least seven months out of every year. Lots of dieback when it reached 117F for 3 days. Best of luck with the Reed. Terrific! Do remember how heavy the fruit is, and that it will cause branches to bend down significantly. Im also always unsure what Im going to find at these types of stores, which is why I always have a look when Im shopping there. Please keep it up. Especially since I have a big interest in Hawaiian varieties it is difficult to know what the season will be in OC. Hi Peter, And I also hope for mild heat this summer! Full sun Holiday doesnt produce much down here either, from the trees Ive seen and grown, compared to other varieties. The state dealt in the Sharwil variety of avocado, which some say is superior in taste and texture and yields more flesh. by Laurie Meadows. Guacamole heaven! And compared to Reed, Fuertes production isnt as consistently high. for avocados. We have tried to plant Hass avocados about four times and despite every best effort with location change in the yard and switching up irrigation they all eventually turned black on the trunk, browned leaf tips, and given up, to our dismay. Thats because after choosing the variety I decided that time has come to choose the rootstock)))) However, apart from my own garden, I do some gardening in my parish churchs park, also in Nice. Ill be visiting a mature high-density planting in a couple weeks and Ill pass along anything new that I observe, but the main long-term challenge for most growers with this style is keeping on top of the pruning. Ive never had a tree-matured Sir Prize. These are varieties that take a long time to get big enough to be useful as shade trees compared to other varieties. The flesh had nice color, tasted rich and smooth. This is a tough call. 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